September 2008 - 1

[Batkaz]

Bank holiday w/end - spring weather- would to have a clue on this one.

[Jeffdsolo]

[Batkaz]

Don't like boats, and the river 7 is to far for my bike,
I think i will start at the Tissington trail and walk and walk and walk.

[Batkaz]

This one is taking its time to find, so here my thoughts on where it might be.

The photo for this clue was taken by the same camera as the Easter ramisis hunt - so it might be around the same area.
The first part of the clue (grease my palm) could be to buy the booklet or as I believe, is to do with TROT (tolls for horse riding)
The next part is (find the heart of this lane) this could be a discovery centre in the heart of uk.
add my post on botany (ferns)
I therefor think we a looking for a forest in the heart of England that charges tolls for horse riding with a discovery centre.
No need to start googling the forest is WYRE FOREST which has the Sabrina way passing though.
Also along with Jeffdsolo's posts that it might be near the river severn, (severn valley park) not far away.
I do hope that some Newbie can search the area and find this coin.

[cornettracing80]

Thats Awesome!....Noob assist......

great plan to drum up new interest..

[Lodgecrest]

This one is taking its time to find, so here my thoughts on where it might be.

The photo for this clue was taken by the same camera as the Easter ramisis hunt - so it might be around the same area.
The first part of the clue (grease my palm) could be to buy the booklet or as I believe, is to do with TROT (tolls for horse riding)
The next part is (find the heart of this lane) this could be a discovery centre in the heart of uk.
add my post on botany (ferns)
I therefor think we a looking for a forest in the heart of England that charges tolls for horse riding with a discovery centre.
No need to start googling the forest is WYRE FOREST which has the Sabrina way passing though.
Also along with Jeffdsolo's posts that it might be near the river severn, (severn valley park) not far away.
I do hope that some Newbie can search the area and find this coin.

To add to this:-

The "find the heart of this lane" I always took to mean it was the juction of where the "Sabrina Long Distance Path" crosses the "Heart of England Long Distance Path" Good Luck

[haggis]

The "find the heart of this lane" I always took to mean it was the juction of where the "Sabrina Long Distance Path" crosses the "Heart of England Long Distance Path" Good Luck

This was exactly what I thought also, just never got round to getting the literature (think it was out of print).

Cheers
Haggis

[walther]

:lol:
Thats Awesome!....Noob assist......

great plan to drum up new interest..

Now if only I could get an Old Guy assist on my riddle

[Batkaz]

The "find the heart of this lane" I always took to mean it was the juction of where the "Sabrina Long Distance Path" crosses the "Heart of England Long Distance Path" Good Luck

This was exactly what I thought also, just never got round to getting the literature (think it was out of print).

I also checked this out, but the nearest wood would be cannock chase (only toll near here is the M6). Also this lane would be at 3 o'clock. Puzz must know that the leaflets are out of print and if we needed them, I sure that he would have change the clue.

Nice weekend for all new comers to go hunting.

Yours Batkaz - an old guy

[Toxophilite]

I just had a fresh look at this and came up with an encouraging location. I ignored all the obvious long distance path implications and buying or toll implications and just extracted some key words implied by the picture and from the first half of the riddle. I found a location that fits in perfectly with all these words. It is steeped in legend that once encouraged hunts for gold treasure so it fits the theme of the adventure quite well and its location is also very encouraging. There are bridleways at the location and I suspect the second half of the clue tells you how to locate the coin. I think 'find the heart of this way' is an instruction maybe an actual heart shape located along the path and the coin is in a 9 o'clock position from that. I know that the counter agrument would be that if it is not on that specific path, why would they just happen to have a picture of it? However it does have to be that particular path's waymarker for my idea to work and if they are hiding coins all over the country it wouldn't be too difficult to get a photograph of it. Could be a bizarre coincidence (had plenty of them on the pyramid riddles) but it does seem to fit really well and there is an implication that the coin could be gold. Unless I'm mistaken we don't have any claims of finding a gold coin in 2008, unless it was the mill race ?

[Lodgecrest]

Good Luck, when are you going to have a look?

[Toxophilite]

Probably not in the near future, its not too far but far enough not to go without a bit more certainty that it's the right place. Plus I don't really know what I'm looking for when I get there.

[Monkey_Stainz]

so has this one been found yet??? from what is posted above i have a "general" location. if anyone has any extra info plz feel free to pm me.

[Toxophilite]

A few more ideas that may spark off some new interest in this one.

I extracted a 5 decimal place latitude and longitude from this clue using the same principle as was used on the British Camp Hill Fort Isis. It didn't look convincing at first because it contains a few double digits and the location isn't near any significant place of interest but it lies about 10 yards to the West of the Jack Mytton Way. On looking through local maps and government websites I discovered that this particular stretch of the JMW is also the SW. So by simply taking two blocks of consecutive numbers from the text and ignoring the numbers around them (which I assumed to be disguise) I had a coordinate that was virtually slap bang on the SW. Further investigation showed that the covert in which it lies is part of woods where there is a trail of geocaches, in fact one of them is about ten feet from the coordinates I obtained.

A lot of people have referred to the picture as a rock but I've always assumed it to be an old oak tree. There's definitely one near by because there's a dead oak leaf in the picture. So I was hoping to find the oak tree on the path at that location with the coin at the coordinates to the West (9 o'clock). I discovered that there is a top of the range GPS Handheld called a Magellan Meridian Gold so wondered if the first part of the clue was a hint to geocachers. Alternatively palm (mitt - slang for hand) might be a hint at Jack Mytton, and the JMW waymarkers are yellow (gold). The meaning of 'heart' might become more apparent at the location. So decided to have a day out yesterday and pay a visit. Plenty of oak trees on the path but no waymarkers screwed to them. The only markers are on the standard bridleway posts with the horse-shoe indents on them, and they are JMW markers and local strolls. The location itself is accessible but badly overgrown with brambles and very muddy. I saw the geocache in there (almost fell over it) but no obvious 'heart'. Unfortunately the only technology I had was a TomTom Sat Nav which kept losing its resolution amongst the trees. If it is there its one for hardened geocachers with the correct equipment to narrow down the search area. We had a wander along the path to where the SW breaks away from the JMW looking for a marker like the one in the picture, but nobody in this neck of the woods seems to be bothered to mark the SW. I have seen local walk maps that confirm it to be there, it just isn't uniquely signposted. I think it all depends on whether the picture really is near the location or if it was just intended to name that particular path.

We then decided to check out the Wyre forest and went on the red route circular walk from the visitor centre which takes in the bridleway that I believe is part of the SW. Again the only markers are always on posts (apart from a few kid's trail markers that were nailed to trees) but none of them referenced the SW.

One additional location that we checked out a couple of weeks ago was the beauty spot in Staffordshire which I believe is the only place where the SW and HOEW intersect.



The path here is the only place where I have seen the SW logo markers but we followed them for quite a way and none of them have the blue arrow as well, and they never seem to screw them to trees as there are plenty of existing posts. There is a sculpture trail at this beauty spot (though not specifically on the SW) which has a 'heart' theme. The heart sculpture shown here lies about 15 yards due West of the hand standing man (grease/dirty my palm maybe), but didn't find any coin.



Thought I'd just share these failures. Personally I'm right out of ideas in the absence of further clues. Blow the coin, I'd be happy to see a photograph of a SW waymarker that exactly matches the one in the clue .

[Toxophilite]

Further to my last post I've just been examining the detailed photos that I took of the SW waymarkers in Staffordshire and I noticed when I darkened the images and increased the contrast that you can definitely see the outline of an arrow of the correct orientation and size. We didn't notice this at the time, it just looked like the logo on a white circular background. So the blue dye must have faded in the sunlight. If this was a common problem with these markers the one in the riddle photo is either relatively new or in shade.