Ramisis G1 vs. Ramisi5 (G1)

[greenwolf86]

Does anyone know how to tell the difference between a G1 Ramisis and a Ramisi5? I read that the i5 didn't have the placenta marking or numbers under the pyramid layers, but others stated that their i5's still had the placenta marking. I'm trying to pick up an i5 and there is a G1 on ebay here.

[ghxost]

I sent in a picture of mine to the info email. The Pic only showed what shows in your pic, the front of the pyramid. The reply guy said it was a g1 just from that pic alone and that he could upgrade it at the shop here to a g2. Not sure why one would want to, but I really don't know the difference aside from G1 being harder than G2...

So something about those front markings has to be a dead give away. Perhaps some of those older owners were mistaken?

https://ibb.co/mXWwwkq

[greenwolf86]

Yeah, that little circle with lines on the top layer is the "placenta." The Ramisi5 doesn't have that mark, and the G2s show GII on top.

[greenwolf86]

Also, welcome to the forums Ghxost!

[ghxost]

You said some do. And the video of the first handmade batch all have the marking as well?
I'm just saying, something doesn't add up and until they do it will be hard to distinguish IMO

Anyone know why one would want to 'upgrade' a G1 to a G2 via repair (aside from breakage that is)

[ghxost]

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=2636

I have a ramisi5 unless I am mistaken

[greenwolf86]

Great find!
Part way down that post Karen says that the Ramisi5 actually has that spelling error (?) engraved on the puzzle
Looks like we both must have a normal Ramisis.

[ghxost]

Mine has no other markings at all, so its either a ramisi5 or one of the first batch of hand mades or a mistake. Every bit of reading I've done says all the rest of the G1 ramisis have the markings under the layers, including some of the confirmed ramis5 ordered originally.

Or I just have a very rare mistake. Meh. Happy regardless as I'm not selling it, I'm solving it and collecting it! At 1/4 ish the new price paid for it (going off of now pricing) I think I got a bargain!

[Drozaiim]

Hi there,

Got myself a Ramisis (Ramisi5?) few days ago on ebay. I'm trying to find marks under each layer, on each corner, but I don't see a thing (all smooth). On the front, it's says ''Ramisis'' so....I have...?

Thanks for the help!

Cheers!

[ghxost]

I wish there were some better info, maybe its as simple as it is what it's label says but I don't even know that for sure. My G1 copper ramisis has a 9 digit serial. That's about my only indicator it was an early (ish) batch, hopefully a harder one... I have not opened this one yet though to find out..

[Drozaiim]

It's also a copper (showing under the pyramid it's a 10 digits and Sonicwarp.com).

How can I know it's a Ramisis or a Ramis5? One thing's for sure, I don't know at all the orientation of each layer, except the 2 top ones.

[Freddie]

These forums are a nice collection of information, unfortunately they don't seem very lively anymore.
I just thought I'd post some information for people who stumble across this in the future.

RAMISIS V1 & V1.1
- The V1 and V1.1 only differ in that the very top of the pyramid was changed from pointy to rounded. The rounded top continues throughout the rest of the product lifecycle.
- Color is copper anodized
- Font on the front says "RAMISIS" in capital letters.
- There is a placenta symbol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_E ... ieroglyphs Aa1) on the top section
- There are "0" and "1" on the underside corners of the bottom layers to help with orientation.
- Internal key is for a dimple lock, similar to ISIS puzzle.
- Includes an LED circuit inside that lights up the hole in the key chamber.
- Circuit had built-in timer & recorded solve time. Would display a code to allow access to a defunct online leaderboard for how fast the puzzle would be opened.
- Opening the key chamber is only half the puzzle. Reverse navigating the internal maze is the other half. Disassembly is the final step.

RAMISI5
- Made available to members of the ISIS 5% club.
- Slightly more difficult than V1 because the "0" and "1" marks are absent, so keeping track of orientation is more challenging.
- The font on the front shows "RAMISI5" with a 5 for the final "S"

RAMISIS G2
- Alternate color schemes (black/gold, black/blue, gold/blue, etc).
- External font changed to lowercase "Ramisis"
- Top placenta symbol replaced with "G2"
- LED circuit removed.
- Many internal parts of the puzzle are altered (simplified).
- hole in keychamber reduced in size and pentagram around hole removed.
- Internal key is changed to pin-tumbler lock style key. Key is likely non functional in any real lock.
- Puzzle can be reset immediately after opening the key chamber without reverse-solving labyrinth making the puzzle much easier.

DEVIL
- Based off the G2.
- Color scheme is red/black.
- G2 in top layer has devil horns on letter G.
- Has a single internal difference from G2 which can add confusion to solving the puzzle.

[greenwolf86]

Thanks Freddie! Just getting back to the forum after a long time away, but this is really helpful, so thanks for sharing!