Placentas?!

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Placentas?!

Postby fatboysam » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:25 pm

Afternoon all,

Just a couple of things… to start, I’m new here so hello. After months of trying the free searches, i've finally decided that enough is enough and have bought a isis . The sad thing was that I’d already solved the clues and had a fairly good idea of how to open it in preparation for this momentous day. Or so I thought…!

Anyway, I think I’m getting there, there’s just one think that’s really confusing me… what are the ‘placentas’? do I have them too? Since there’s no mention of them in the clues I was just a bit confused. I was reading thought the forum and there are various mentions of the placentas so any light shed on the subject would be much appreciated.

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Re: Placentas?!

Postby bluesign2k » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:37 pm

Hi & welcome to the adventure/forum/mad house (whatever you prefer to call it) :D :D

The placentas are the two symbols engraved on the ISIS itself ie. not on the rings or plunger (although the placenta symbol is also often found on the rings too).
At the beginning they should be inline with each other, more than anything they're there as an indicator to show how much the two haves of the ISIS are unscrewed.

The placenta symbol simply looks like a circle with a number of horizontal lines going across it.

Hope that helps :D

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Re: Placentas?!

Postby Happyhannah » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:46 pm

It *does* sound a bit dodgy, really, doesn't it?

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Re: Placentas?!

Postby fatboysam » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:15 pm

Ah, thanks. That makes a lot of sense really. Feel a bit silly now. I'd seem them, just didn't realise they actually had a name.

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Re: Placentas?!

Postby bit1313 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:23 pm

Beyond the symbol on the ISIS and Ramisis:

The "placenta", is an actual Middle Egyptian hieroglyph.

The circle intersect by 5 horizontal lines is technically listed as an unclassified glyph in both Budge and Allen references, however there are notes that scholars have seen this symbol used in a way that might indicate a literal placenta (and some reclassify it as a body part, as such)

The symbol is used as a phoneme which is often known as "third h" (or an h with a bowl stroke under it) When attempting to pronounce the "third h", it would sound like the German ch in the word "ach" (or in English, try saying "lock" without closing your throat).

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Re: Placentas?!

Postby Happyhannah » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:34 pm

bit1313 wrote:The symbol is used as a phoneme which is often known as "third h" (or an h with a bowl stroke under it) When attempting to pronounce the "third h", it would sound like the German ch in the word "ach" (or in English, try saying "lock" without closing your throat).


Or Scottish "loch" :)

When I learned Middle Egyptian my teacher just called it a "ball of string"! :lol:
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Re: Placentas?!

Postby bit1313 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:38 pm

Happyhannah wrote:
Or Scottish "loch" :)

When I learned Middle Egyptian my teacher just called it a "ball of string"! :lol:


Exactly. Gardiner's Egyptian Grammar has this reference as well. (the loch.. not the ball of string) :mrgreen:
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Re: Placentas?!

Postby cornettracing80 » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:49 pm

i always thought the placenta was like a filter that fed a unborn child in the womb......i have seen a couple and believe me they are not pretty..... :lol: :lol:
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