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Isis produces a musical note

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:19 pm
by Deggen
Hello everyone,

I've had my isis for a long time now. Its AMAZING - I love and hate not being able to open it. It'll make it all the more of a rush when it finally opens...

After 4 hours of sitting in a dark cupboard with headphones on, my camera's rifle microphone pointed at the Isis, listening to it intently as I rotated it... not a sodding clue.

I have the original 10 clues and I've been scouring the forum for the rest.

THE POINT:

I found that when re-creating the beginning of our universe in my living room (much to my mother's dismay) - the Isis created a hum. This is presumably from the springs for the plunger. However, on further investigation----

I found it to create the EXACT pitch of middle C on a piano.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I hope this is significant, because that would be sooo kool. This thing just keeps getting more complex. Wonderful.

Oh... while I'm here:

Does concrete damage this thing? how hard are we talking here? I'm guessing enough to shift a ball bearing from the grip of a neodymium magnet (s**t strong right?) and you have to hit it directly on the magnet (found using a compass) or opposite the magnet rather... perhaps pushing the plunger exactly when you hit the isis?

Anyone agree/disagree?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:47 pm
by rusty13
disagree with your music thing, interesting but useless!

rusty

Re: Isis produces a musical note

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:51 pm
by Espansiva
Deggen wrote:I found it to create the EXACT pitch of middle C on a piano.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I hope this is significant, because that would be sooo kool.

Sorry to have to disappoint you (being a music-lover and -nerd myself) but I have to agree with Rusty that you are fishing in the wrong pond...

Deggen wrote:(...)and you have to hit it directly on the magnet (found using a compass) or opposite the magnet rather... perhaps pushing the plunger exactly when you hit the isis?

Read clue 1 again... :)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:35 pm
by rusty13
fishing in the wrong pond.....thats a good one, havent heard that before lol, i like it. maybe my new saying lol

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:44 am
by g0isw
Deggen,

You have cheered me up a bit! At least it is not just me that cannot get the !7#"^* thing open. :twisted:

Have used such force here that I have severely dented my next directory and a large piece of wood, without any noticable effect. :shock:

Only when I threw it as hard as I could on the floor in disgust did it sound any different. It went completely quiet, not a sound. Thought I had broken it. :shock:

Have only just managed to get it back to moving ball bearings. :)

Best of luck :D

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:17 pm
by rusty13
no no no! you dont throw it! you (EDIT) it whilst holding it as hard as you can!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:27 pm
by g0isw
Rusty,

I tried your method with the book and the plank. Many times 8)

Then I threw it on the floor in disgust :D

I think that Rubik cube was easier and more straight forward than this! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:06 pm
by rusty13
dude where do you live, am i able to help at all?

rusty

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:25 pm
by g0isw
Rusty,

Thanks for your kind offer of help, but I must open the Isis myself. :roll:

If that doesn't happen then there is always Isis 2 hi. Please, please without any M***** inside. :lol:

All the best :)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:26 pm
by rusty13
yeh no problem, but if u want any advice pm me.

rusty

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:59 am
by Deggen
Thanks for all the replies guys! :)

I thought the whole musical thing could be to do with resonance frequencies and stuff like that. (Hey I'm an engineer student, what do you expect?) Did any one else notice that in the clues, the letters "i" and "j" were interchangeable at times? Because, as many of you will know, the imaginary number - square route of negative 1 - is noted as "i" in mathematics and is noted as "j" in engineering.

Again - useless info. but since imaginary numbers can also be linked to oscillation and resonances: you can understand why I thought it a possibility?

The key word was edited in your post rusty!! DAMN IT

"no no no! you dont throw it! you (EDIT) it whilst holding it as hard as you can!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:55 pm
by Happyhannah
Deggen, I know exactly where you're coming from!

When I first got the Isis I happened to be halfway through reading the Dark Tower series by Stephen King, and if nothing else, that series REALLY enjoys it's coincidences! I thought about the i/j thing (and to anyone who's read the Dark Tower series; I counted letters to see if they were 19!) but I didn't get the musical thing.

I know it's of no consequence, but I'll test my Isis (I have a piano handy) and see what frequency my spring vibrates at :-) If nothing else, it'll show us just how similar they all are ;-)

[edit]... and I think the edited word from Rusty's post might be in his signature :-P

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:17 pm
by rusty13
lol, you have a very keen eye ;)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:56 pm
by Cocovanna
Deggen wrote:Did any one else notice that in the clues, the letters "i" and "j" were interchangeable at times?


It happens with g/q too in the same clue ... that's a stupid error (sorry SW), cause I'm convinced it's an error (except if it was to make decoding harder, but I doubt that)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:13 pm
by Deggen
Again, Cocovanna, I think this could be to do with PUZZ's routes in engineering. G and Q being interchangeable could relate to Gravity (G) and charge (Q). The forces of gravitational and electrical fields can be explained in similar ways. The equations used to calculate force in both are exactly the same (except the constants).

So much waffling can come from trying to whack this ba***rd into the half-way stage! :D

I feel slight dislike for the moderator just now. (no hard feelings dude) I'm hoping what's being edited is not as important as a dread it is.

Righto - I'll give it another go.

Thanks again guys :)