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Postby Sue » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:53 am

I’d like to see some fun put back into this adventure. As it stands at the moment the passwords are just pure guesses, you successfully answer the riddle and then have to guess which part of the riddle has the loosest of links to something completely unrelated to the riddle and then find a word associated with that. Spending a fortune on petrol or chucking money at SW ‘pay to guess’ password checker is not my idea of fun.

Finding the pyramids is fun so how about adding another coin, a bronze coin? If you visit the pyramid you can claim a bronze coin (whether the pyramid still contains gold or not). Once you have collected five bronze coins you can cash them in for a prize, 10 bronze coins will get you a better prize etc.

If you buy Isis II and get a second key you will be entitled to two bronze coins per location.

At the moment buying Isis II is not going to improve the adventure, I’ve got one expensive paperweight I don’t need another.
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Postby Gary's Mum » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:55 am

Not so sure adventure is the right word anymore
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Postby antp » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:25 pm

I think that your are so right sue something else should be done, but would the top 5%er's that have lost of time to work out the clues get to them first and then go buy another isis and go back for the gold with the password!! It want work out any different than it is know?
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Postby steve » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:25 am

I think that Puzz & SW have put together a great idea with the Isis Adventure, could you do any better?
They are a small company taking on the world, and with any small company there inevitably will be problems.
The biggest problem is the promising of dates that unfortunately usually get put back.
SW do not manufacture the Isis, they have to rely on other companies to be reliable.
I personally have learnt lots of things from the hours of googleing unfortunately I have not won a gold coin yet, but I was the first to find the Yorkshire pyramid and got the last Isis 1A, which to me was better than gold because it is rarer.
That trip to Yorkshire was an adventure that I will never forget. Any time that I go away I try to do some pyramid hunting.
In fact at this very moment I am sitting writing this from a hotel room six hundred miles from home, this trip was nothing to do with the Isis adventure until I received a PM from another hunter this evening, and since I will be close to a pyramid tomorrow, I will now be doing a little bit more research.
So basically the way I see it, you will only get fun from the adventure if you are prepared to put effort in yourself.
You can't blame Puzz for not figuring out a password if you are sitting watching Eastenders or Big Brother, and you can't blame him for the price of fuel, but a few less cigarettes a day, and a few less beers at the weekend and that is the start of your Isis fund.
You could go and spend the money that you saved for your Isis2 on lottery tickets, and you would probably win some money, but wouldn’t it be more satisfying to earn a gold coin?
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Postby bluesign2k » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:03 am

steve wrote:I think that Puzz & SW have put together a great idea with the Isis Adventure, could you do any better?
They are a small company taking on the world, and with any small company there inevitably will be problems.
The biggest problem is the promising of dates that unfortunately usually get put back.
SW do not manufacture the Isis, they have to rely on other companies to be reliable.
I personally have learnt lots of things from the hours of googleing unfortunately I have not won a gold coin yet, but I was the first to find the Yorkshire pyramid and got the last Isis 1A, which to me was better than gold because it is rarer.
That trip to Yorkshire was an adventure that I will never forget. Any time that I go away I try to do some pyramid hunting.
In fact at this very moment I am sitting writing this from a hotel room six hundred miles from home, this trip was nothing to do with the Isis adventure until I received a PM from another hunter this evening, and since I will be close to a pyramid tomorrow, I will now be doing a little bit more research.
So basically the way I see it, you will only get fun from the adventure if you are prepared to put effort in yourself.
You can't blame Puzz for not figuring out a password if you are sitting watching Eastenders or Big Brother, and you can't blame him for the price of fuel, but a few less cigarettes a day, and a few less beers at the weekend and that is the start of your Isis fund.
You could go and spend the money that you saved for your Isis2 on lottery tickets, and you would probably win some money, but wouldn’t it be more satisfying to earn a gold coin?

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Postby Lodgecrest » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:38 pm

Well I kinda like what Sue has got to say, and I bet she doesn't watch Eastenders anyway
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Postby Sue » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:32 pm

steve wrote:I think that Puzz & SW have put together a great idea with the Isis Adventure, could you do any better?

I certainly wasn’t suggesting I could do better, what I’m saying is SW need to do better. Before you annihilate my character further (I’ve never watched Eastenders or Big Brother, I’m not blaming Puzz for the price of fuel, nor do I spend my money on beer and cigarettes) perhaps you will see that what I am saying does make sense.

SW have come up with a fantastic concept and I appreciate there will be teething problems, these new style clues are one of them. They are too vague to be fun. The ‘leap-of-faith’ at the end is just that, it’s not difficult or clever, it’s just vague. I’m not belittling those who have found a password, indeed, I tip my hat to their persistence.

When a password was found I would have liked to have said “well done SW” or “that was clever” and dive back into Google. I didn’t expect to say “WTF, you’re joking”. The passwords appear to be down to a lucky guess and hoping you’ve “leapt” in the right direction. Working out clues is fun, no matter how difficult, guess work is not and this is where the problem lies. How many prospective Isis II customers feel the same way? I know of quite a number. Is the forum going quiet because people are on holiday or because they feel the same? There is nothing I’d like more than to say “buy an Isis, and join the adventure, it’s great fun” but as it stands at the moment, that is not the case.

For the Isis adventure to continue the sales of Isis 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 need to continue and grow. I know there are people who will buy Isis II but are there enough to make it financially viable?
steve wrote:You could go and spend the money that you saved for your Isis2 on lottery tickets, and you would probably win some money, but wouldn’t it be more satisfying to earn a gold coin?

The adventure isn’t about money, it’s about having fun which is why I suggested the third coin.
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Postby steve » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:02 am

I certainly was not having a personal dig at anybody, when I said "you" I most certainly did not meant "Sue", I am sorry you picked me up that way, I meant people in general, and as for the fags and booze I was speaking from personal experience.
I was just saying my bit in defence of SW and the adventure, too many posts these days seem to be negative, and unfortunately there is not enough good news to counteract the bad.
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Postby Sue » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:06 am

steve wrote:too many posts these days seem to be negative

Perhaps this is not such a bad thing, if Puzz is not informed as to why hunters are dropping out of the adventure he can’t do anything to rectify the situation.

For Isis II to equal the sales of Isis I every member of the 5% club needs to recommend Isis II to 19 friends.
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Postby Lodgecrest » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:39 am

I think Sue that your frustration, comes from a love of the Isis Adventure and may seem negative to some.

I too have a great love for the adventure, and get pleasure from different aspects of it at different times. I also get frustrated at it, I think Puzz will find it very difficult to please everyone all the time, and that’s why there is negativity on this forum. If you read between the lines, most that criticised are those that care about the adventure and want the Adventure to continue and grow, if they didn't care they would just say nothing.

I think that anyone who takes the time to write a suggestion like yours Sue should be applauded; you care about the adventure and have come up with a good idea (which is hard to do, any old mug can just moan and say something is wrong).

I remember finding my first Pyramid and using my key to open it to collect a sliver coin, it was so exciting and I dragged the whole family out with me. It kind of completed that part of the adventure for me.

I have also found a free Isis, after going many (11 plus) hunts for them and that was just great fun. It just adds something to the many hour of Googling that we all do, to get out and about and physically look.

Puzz I know read all the posts on his forum, and he does listen and I'm please to say that he has used one or two of my suggestion in the pass.

I hope he uses yours. Well done Sue.
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Postby cornettracing80 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:08 am

well said lodge,
i think my posts come off too negative some times depending on my mood.
i too love the adventure :)
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Postby Sue » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:41 am

How about the silver being worth a discount off the next Isis?

Retailers will be looking for a 40-50% mark-up on merchandise they stock so the silver should be worth at least a 40% discount.

This may encourage those who would otherwise take silver and drop out of the adventure to purchase the next Isis and continue with the adventure.

The £20 should also remain with an option for cash or voucher.
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