500 Club

[jazz]

Well Folks,

I have 2 of the keys required for the final puzzle. Sadly the Ramisis is going to remain shut, as I don't see the point to it now that I have the key. The thought that ISIS 111 is already in proto tpye form is to much. As they say a" Fool and his Money are soon Parted" They say we can have our hands on it in March 09 .

[kingpin]

They say we can have our hands on it in March 09

lol should be with you in november 2009 then,,,(if your lucky)its funny how quickly some people forget.

[evilkeen]

Currently anyone joining this club before January 1st 2009 will be guaranteed to receive the Isis III puzzle in March 2009. General release of Isis III is expected to be Sept/Oct 2009

Well that makes me think either

(1) SW have taken on board our comments about the pre-release ordering of ISIS II (or effective lack of), and are determined to make sure we get ISIS III a full 6 months before everyone else; or

(2) The 500 club is really the ISIS III beta-testers club, so they can fully iron out the bugs before the general release

I suppose, on reflection, that both of these could be positive points. It certainly is tempting.

[kingpin]

Currently anyone joining this club before January 1st 2009 will be guaranteed to receive the Isis III puzzle in March 2009. General release of Isis III is expected to be Sept/Oct 2009

lol the words guaranteed and expected in the same sentence

[bluesign2k]

Currently anyone joining this club before January 1st 2009 will be guaranteed to receive the Isis III puzzle in March 2009. General release of Isis III is expected to be Sept/Oct 2009

lol the words guaranteed and expected in the same sentence

They're actually in two different sentences refering to two different releases.... but I see what your getting at

[bit1313]

The 500 club
Folks,

Update 17th November 2008

As some of you are aware I recently offered the opportunity for Z3r0San1ty to buy the remaining isis series in advance of production, which he has accepted. A few others have shown interest.

I have now created a club called the 500 club for anyone wishing to take up this offer. This offer is open to all at £500 for the remaining 3 puzzles in the series. Any gold coins claimed can of course be exchanged for this offer. Anyone on this list will be guaranteed priority on release of future Isis series puzzles.

Currently anyone joining this club before January 1st 2009 will be guaranteed to receive the Isis III puzzle in March 2009. General release of Isis III is expected to be Sept/Oct 2009

Isis III is already at prototype phase, and testing will commence before Jan 2009

Puzz

Puzz,

I want to, in an open post here on the forum for all to see, ask a few questions of this.

* At £500, that is £167ish per puzzle over the next 3 puzzles over the next three years
* I assume that £500 upfront is kind of a price lock if you will... if the puzzle prices go up, we are locked in.
* I can't imagine how much higher these puzzles could get in price before you price yourself out of the market... so you are either ramping down production as you move to puzzle III and IV and finally to V, or are not foreseeing a huge jump in price, which means the £500 investment doesn't net us a price break. (right now at the £149 + £25 pp intro price for the US, that nets us £21 savings over the next 3 years). That assumes a like intro price for puzzles III, IV and V. If the price goes straight to £169 to start with £25 pp, that is a 3 year savings of £81... but that only applies to USers, as pp in the UK is much cheaper.
* I call this an investment, because frankly it is. We are investing in Sonicwarp and its ability to create three more awesome puzzles that will be on-time, functioning and and worth £167 or more each.
* What guarantee do we have once the £500 changes hands that March 2009 doesn't slip to May 2009? Or June 2009? Or that the puzzle we get doesn't have first round issues like puzzles of the past?
* Does this 500 Club come with bonuses? Added incentives? White Glove Treatment and Priority Shipping and Issue Resolving?
* What assurance do we have that we won't be doing this in 2009 while everyone else is still waiting for their puzzles and we, the pre-paying guinea pigs are with issues that need resolving?
* We are on the heels of a couple of false starts, a recall, poor display boxes and a backed up queue of orders that were pre-payed months ago. What would make us think that March 2009 or even Sept/Oct 2009 will be different? (That is a true and honest question, because these are all facts)

You are the salesman and you have my attention. (I truly am interested in the pre-buy concept and I'm not just trying to put you on the spot.) Sell me your puzzles... make me not just GIVE you £500, but make me WANT to give you £500.

How do we know that the lessons learned from ISIS I and ISIS II will not be repeated and that any unforeseen issues will be resolved quickly and with priority?

I am truly not trying to be a jerk. I want to know the added benefit of the 500 Club before I forgo my next months car payment for a 3 year investment.

If I see effort and honesty (and value) in the response, I will forward you £500 and join the club. But like I said, I need to be sold.

Truly and Respectably Yours,
Bit1313
Gene

[steve]

Well said bit1313, I concur 100%.

Because as Puzz has said a few times £500 is a lot of money.

[kingpin]

bit1313.....EXCELLENT POST MY FRIEND

[themagicdude]

I'm with you there. I'd like to hear a response to that. I'm also concidering this offer, but those are all good questions. I'd also expect that the puzzles we reciever are special edition puzzles such as the Ramisi5, since that's what we'd be ordering anyway. I wouldn't want to hear, you can have your puzzle early IF you change to getting the standard version.

[cornettracing80]

all i know is everyday 500 pounds gets closer to 500 dollars....i am ESSTATIC that i dont have to pay double anymore..i dont need the 500 club if i can pay straight money pound/dollar...i have been paying double since i started ..you all are whining about paying 1-1....when i said i was going to do it 500 pounds= about 850 dollars...everyday that gets closer and closer to 1/1....its a great day for me....if i sent puzz 850 dollars when i said i was going to i would have to move in with him,since my wife would have kicked my ass out...
if i buy them one at a time the total doesnt glare her in the face....

anyway i am not sure this wasnt initially developed for gold coin winners,,,just offering it to anyone interested so everyone wouldnt complain...good luck with that..right?....

[themagicdude]

If i would have waited until now to buy my ramisi5, i could have saved 75 bucks. I would say wait and buy the puzzles seperately, but looking back, this is the lowest value for gbp in at least 5 years. I don't think we expect it to keep dropping. It's started to come back up. Maybe this is a temporary climb, but maybe it's the end of the drop. Who knows?

[cornettracing80]

ah crap!!!...buy low ...maybe i should get in the 500 club while its low!!!

is it anything like the "mile high club"?...can we make it like it?

[themagicdude]

You, me and zerosanity in our own mile high club...

[cornettracing80]

oh yeah ...your in that club too?

[themagicdude]

No, but I'd like to be. Don't read too much into that.