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Cornwall Pyramid (10) Solution

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:43 pm
by bluesign2k
Hey guys, some of you asked for the explanation to the Cornwall pyramid in the Which Pyramids still contain Gold?? and SW have also asked me to post my story, so here goes.... 8)

Firstly a reminder of the riddle:
You will find this bounty playground near a sunburnt babe.
From local pioneer to South Wales winner,
take the trip then discover the man
who beat a Prince and name the dark stuff.

"You will find this bounty playground near a sunburnt babe."
Since my family fairly regularly visit Cornwall for summer holidays etc when we saw "sunburnt babe" part of the clue Redruth immediately sprang to mind.
After digging out a bunch of those local attraction leaflets that we always bringing back from holiday we quickly discovered that the "bounty playground" was probably a place called Cornish Goldsmiths, which is based just outside of Redruth. We figured this was most likely the location as it's found within a small complex called Treasure Park which fitted very nicely with the clue and other pyramids had been found in jewlers before.

"From local pioneer to South Wales winner"
The only "pioneer" (or inventor in this case) that I knew that came from Cornwall was Richard Trevithick. Who just happend to have been born in Illogan which is about 1 mile away from both Redruth and Cornish Goldsmiths. Having read the wiki page on him it turns out that Trevithick moved to South Wales to build an automatic hammer for Pen-y-Darren iron works near Merthyr Tydfil.

"take the trip"
The owner of that ironworks, Samuel Homfray was so impressed that he made a bet with another guy that one of Trevithick's locomotives could haul 10 tons of iron along the Merthyr Tidfil line from Penydarren to Abercynon.

"the man who beat a Prince"
So at this point we're at Abercynon and looking for "the man who beat a Prince", this is where I came to one of those dead ends everyone keeps going on about. Anyway... I eventually find this guy called Guto Nyth Brân (or Griffith Morgan) who was a runner. The guy became a bit of a local legend and nobody wanted to race him until some guy called Prince came along and challened him. Guto won the race but a celebratory slap on the back from his manager/partner killed him... bummer. Anyway, there happens to be a statue of Guto in a place called Mountain Ash, which many sites list as being in the area of Abercynon!! Woohoo!! :D

"name the dark stuff"
Unfortunately this is where I got stuck for many many months :( I figured that the black stuff was some sort of ore and so I spent a loooonnnngggg time reasearching ALL of the local ores and minerals mined in that area. Turns out that although I was sort of on the right track, I was still kinda at the wrong end of the stick... or in this case, the wrong side of the atlantic!!! As it turns out this is where you need to take the leap of faith, its also where the power of Google was very much against me! :(

For a long time I had been searching for some kind of relation to mountain ash and some ore. Turns out that if you type "Ash Mountain" into google rather that "Mountain Ash" (as I had been doing fo sooo long) then you come up with a completely different set of results!!! How annoying is that :evil:

The top hit was a wiki page (looks promising!!) for a place called Ash Mountain in British Columbia, Canada!! The wiki page is pretty small, not a lot of info there at all, but having been searching through sooo many different types of ore etc previoulsy, one word immediately caught my eye and stuck out.... hyaloclastite!!! The base of Ash Mountain is made of pillow lava and "hyaloclastite" which is formed from volcanic eruptions under water. Apparently it's some kind of rock that is rich in black volcanic glass, hence "the dark stuff"!

So after many months of head scratching, and one very early morning 500 mile round "trip" to Cornwall on a Monday morning... here's me (very tired) with my gold coin (finally!!) :D
The chap on the left is the pyramid keeper, Darren... really nice guy & very enthisiastic about the adventure!
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Sorry if some of the history etc was a bit boring but it was all part of the hunt and I wouldn't have learnt any of it without the adventure... so thank you Puzz, Ade and the rest of SW for helping me fill my brain with so much interesting (but probably useless) information :P :D :D

Also, if your ever in the area around Treasure Park/Cornish Goldsmiths then I recommend at least a quick visit there.
They've got some really cool stuff including the delorean from the Back to the Future films, a million pounds in fivers and gold bars :shock:
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Now work can really start on the Birmingham pyramid.... lol :D

Chris
;)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:08 pm
by Karen_G
Great story Chris, and congratulations again for working it out :D

Karen :)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:28 pm
by steve
Excellent work, well done.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:44 pm
by kitkit
Woh! :shock: Thank you Chris, i now know what to expect from the riddles! not that i've been working on the NW pyramid :(

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:45 pm
by Happyhannah
Ooooh, what a great story :D Really well done Chris!

I got as far as Abercynon, but that was where I gave up on this one (that and the fact that it's MANY hours away from me!).

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:54 pm
by rusty13
arrggggghhhhh well done. I got as far as mountain ash.

Hats off to you!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:35 pm
by Dr Iguana
Well Done Chris!

Great story. I've never heard of Hyaloclastite but I had a feeling that the answer would be an ore of some kind and I had been thinking of the various tin ores. I'd got to Cassiterite or it's local name Tinstone; I thought that seemed very passwordy. I never got to Mountain Ash though.

Again, Congratulations.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:29 pm
by Mystique
Well done Chris, you make it sound so easy. I can appreciate from experience the hours and hours you spent collating all of this mind blowing information whizzing around your head. Well, at least it has paid off for you.

I can't wait until someone cracks the NW password.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:10 am
by cornettracing80
500 miles holy moly :shock:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:07 am
by Gary's Mum
Back from holiday, phew it was Cornwall !

Congrats and well done Chris

Don't work to hard on the Birmingham one :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:56 am
by bluesign2k
Cheers for the kind words guys (ang girls) :D

Gary's Mum wrote:Back from holiday, phew it was Cornwall !

Congrats and well done Chris

Don't work to hard on the Birmingham one :lol:

I heard you breath a sigh of relief from here :P lol

I'll try not to work toooo hard on it :wink: but I have managed to make some progress on it (I think :? ).

Out of interest... when I was at the pyramid collecting the coin I was told that there was a guy who apparently went there every week with a bunch of guesses, he'd apparently been doing this for quite a while... I suspect he must be registered on the forum but I just wondered who he was and perhaps if he was a "regular" here??

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:59 am
by Sue
I’ve heard from one other searcher but he didn’t go every week.

He did collect silver which entitled him to £20 off a meal at the location (excluding drinks). If I had made the 200 mile round trip to collect a silver only to find I had to make another 200 mile trip to use it I would not have been a happy bunny!

Terms and Conditions
7.5.7 Prizes are as stated in the Competitions' details on the Website.

I can’t find where it says silver is for a £20 meal voucher.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:12 am
by Driver
I must admit, I've heard of this before, albeit 18 months ago. I assumed it was an incentive for keepers who may not actually sell the Isis to earn a little revenue. That said, if it isn't mentioned in the latest terms & conditions then they need sorting out.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:09 pm
by Karen_G
I've just looked through the official T&C and I couldn't see it either. I did compile a list of additional terms here

Please see..
Additional rules taken from forum posts

5. The reward for a silver coin is now a cheque for £20 rather than a £20 voucher. [EDIT: This is an option the prize collector can choose, Ade]

Karen :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:11 am
by Sue
The pyramid hunter I mentioned wasn’t offered the choice.